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Zero Punctuation: The World Ends With You
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
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So, just to add another meaningless log to the ever burning internet fire. It's an alright game, the review covered the issues I had with it, and I was happy to have an RPG that didn't have people on potion duty. I really liked the combat system, it makes the touch screen a core element rather then a party trick.
I want to say something like, "I hope some of the issues get addressed in the next game of this type." However, the bitter thing inside me that use to be my soul knows better. I can think of two reasons they won't be. First, this game is one of the best games for the DS, and for some reason being on the top of Mt. Shitty makes developers think they don't need to improve things. Second, "hardcore" jrpg fans (like my roomies) hate the improvements, and I'm guessing this experiment will be a one-of.
I want to say something like, "I hope some of the issues get addressed in the next game of this type." However, the bitter thing inside me that use to be my soul knows better. I can think of two reasons they won't be. First, this game is one of the best games for the DS, and for some reason being on the top of Mt. Shitty makes developers think they don't need to improve things. Second, "hardcore" jrpg fans (like my roomies) hate the improvements, and I'm guessing this experiment will be a one-of.
I signed up just to make this defense post, although I'll try to keep the fanboyism down to a minimum.
First, a bit of background. I hate JRPGs. I would go so far as to say I dislike RPGs in general. I'm the type of person that believes they stopped making Final Fantasy games after VI, with the rest of that series existing only as an illusionary byproduct of a bad hangover. I balk at MMOs, which I like to think of as RPGs without a plot (or anything but grinding for that matter). So when I say I've put 60 hours into this game, I want you to understand it isn't out of blind devotion to a genre or fanatical loyalty to a company.
The story is interesting, if presented like you are reading a book. I personally didn't mind it, Yahtzee did. Different strokes, as the saying goes. There are decent plot twists involved, so it isn't like you know the ending before it happens. I found the characters to be likable; without giving too much away some scenes between your antisocial, disdainful protagonist and his know-it-all, asshat of a partner were worth some laughs. The writing holds up well, but it doesn't really shine until AFTER the game is over. That had me in stitches; it's a shame that level of comedy wasn't dispersed through the whole game.
I had no real problems with the combat, either. Are some pins useless? Yes, I'd say more then half. But there ARE 200+ of them, so you have a good variety to work with. The touch recognition is wonky at times, but I would switch out the pins I couldn't get the hang of using. (There is something to be said about making excuses for a game, but there you are.)
Once again, the difference between Yahtzee and myself is clear, as I adopted to the dual screen controls very quickly. The secret lies in the realization of your partner's abilities, i.e., they only do one damn thing no matter what you press. With this in mind, you are free to mash buttons (normally left or right on the d-pad, depending on direction) and focus your attention solely on the bottom, where actual concentration is required. That's one of my largest complaints: the top screen doesn't have ENOUGH action, although with the level of difficulty people seem to be having perhaps I'm just some kind of mutant who can focus each eye independently or something.
The soundtrack is killer. I mean seriously, I can't remember the last time I went and bought a game soundtrack. Mostly because I've NEVER done that. They overuse one or two songs, especially during cutscenes, but for the most part it's perfect. Easily the best sounding game on the DS.
All and all, it's the best I've played on the DS in a long time. It gets a shiny, gilded pedestal in my heart along side Mario Kart DS, where the two can have an eternal struggle for my love. Give it a try before you decide, as this is a game you need to play before you can pass judgment.
First, a bit of background. I hate JRPGs. I would go so far as to say I dislike RPGs in general. I'm the type of person that believes they stopped making Final Fantasy games after VI, with the rest of that series existing only as an illusionary byproduct of a bad hangover. I balk at MMOs, which I like to think of as RPGs without a plot (or anything but grinding for that matter). So when I say I've put 60 hours into this game, I want you to understand it isn't out of blind devotion to a genre or fanatical loyalty to a company.
The story is interesting, if presented like you are reading a book. I personally didn't mind it, Yahtzee did. Different strokes, as the saying goes. There are decent plot twists involved, so it isn't like you know the ending before it happens. I found the characters to be likable; without giving too much away some scenes between your antisocial, disdainful protagonist and his know-it-all, asshat of a partner were worth some laughs. The writing holds up well, but it doesn't really shine until AFTER the game is over. That had me in stitches; it's a shame that level of comedy wasn't dispersed through the whole game.
I had no real problems with the combat, either. Are some pins useless? Yes, I'd say more then half. But there ARE 200+ of them, so you have a good variety to work with. The touch recognition is wonky at times, but I would switch out the pins I couldn't get the hang of using. (There is something to be said about making excuses for a game, but there you are.)
Once again, the difference between Yahtzee and myself is clear, as I adopted to the dual screen controls very quickly. The secret lies in the realization of your partner's abilities, i.e., they only do one damn thing no matter what you press. With this in mind, you are free to mash buttons (normally left or right on the d-pad, depending on direction) and focus your attention solely on the bottom, where actual concentration is required. That's one of my largest complaints: the top screen doesn't have ENOUGH action, although with the level of difficulty people seem to be having perhaps I'm just some kind of mutant who can focus each eye independently or something.
The soundtrack is killer. I mean seriously, I can't remember the last time I went and bought a game soundtrack. Mostly because I've NEVER done that. They overuse one or two songs, especially during cutscenes, but for the most part it's perfect. Easily the best sounding game on the DS.
All and all, it's the best I've played on the DS in a long time. It gets a shiny, gilded pedestal in my heart along side Mario Kart DS, where the two can have an eternal struggle for my love. Give it a try before you decide, as this is a game you need to play before you can pass judgment.
So even though your feedback cannot be complied with unless yahtzee were to contradict many, many others feedback who are just as whiny and angry as you, you still believe it to be that important? You must be delusional to the point of insanity. Why I'd bet that if anyone disagrees with your one true opinion then you angrily paint them as some sort of raving fanboy. Your feedback is as meaningless (or meaningful) as anyone else who desperately begs him to review something or not review something, but yours was so pompous and self important that my supernatural mental prowess allowed me to deduce that you are, in fact, a ****.Ambition said:
Why thank you! I DO have supernatural mental prowess!
I really think you should stay away from examples, you haven't quite got the hang of them yet.
Why would it be folly exactly to class WoW and Oblivion in the same category? They have an awful lot in common. Come now, with all your wit and importance, you don't even take the time to spell out your point for a poor witless fanboy like me? I feel hurt.
See what I mean about examples? Stick with slagging people off, you're not very good at that either but it's harder to fuck up. I think you're trying to reinforce the idea that my statement is ridiculous by making an exaggeration. But one of these is a movie and one is a stand up routine so it's hyperbole at the very least. Since they're both shit, they would both go in the bargain bin. Then they'd be in the same part of the store!!!!
And I'm saying that the field of JRPGs is too narrow to really be called a genre like in my original post. It was more of an open discussion point, and whether Yahtzee or anyone else calls it that, I still disagree.
Man, if calling you a retard is defending an internet fad, a lot of people must defend internet fads every day!
And by that I mean that you get called a retard a lot.
Because you are one.
You're so much of a retard that I had to explain it so that you could understand.
Yahtzee might like some of the SMT games, but he would not like Persona 3 FES, too much grind, turn based battles and it is VERY japanese. He might like Nocturne or DDS, but probably not Persona 3.YoungZer0 said:
Hey folks. I've been lurking for weeks, and this is my first post! I love all of Yahtzees vids and watch them again and again. Even when I don't agree with him (which is not often).
Anyway, hilarious review as always. I shall give JRPGs a wide berth. Unless I can find a free demo.
Anyway, is Haze out in Australia (not that it stops Yahtzee) Because I have it on good authority that it needs a sound thrashing ZP style.
PS Happy Birthday Dude.
Anyway, hilarious review as always. I shall give JRPGs a wide berth. Unless I can find a free demo.
Anyway, is Haze out in Australia (not that it stops Yahtzee) Because I have it on good authority that it needs a sound thrashing ZP style.
PS Happy Birthday Dude.
I love Yatzee he seem's like the only critic that has any Balls these day I didn't even mind when he Bashed SSBB
I think Persona 3 FES has many of the points that are missing in "The world ends with you" (Stupid name). Turn based combat is okay as long as it goes fast. As far as i know every SMT Game had turn based combat and DDS/Nocturne are damn hard. You played Persona 3 FES? Just curious.PedroSteckecilo said:
I've never really been that into JRPGs, it's the the gameplay allways seems a little boring to me. I also don't have much of a taste for the story in JRPGs and i prefer games like games like Kotor or Mass Effect for their robust storytelling.
I wish they would release Persona 3 for PC so i can see why that is so great(i don't wanna buy a PS2).
I wish they would release Persona 3 for PC so i can see why that is so great(i don't wanna buy a PS2).