Cyberpunk 2077 Review thread - Umm....

[BrawlMan]

I'm going to say something controversial, I think this game is actually pretty good.

I say this with one caveat, I didn't actually pay any money for this game. I saw the mess happening a couple of years ago and had a good laugh at it and decided to pick up the game when it was dirt cheap to have a good look at the mess itself. Then, my brother got in touch with me telling me he had got it me for Christmas. Thankfully he'd had the good sense to get me FF7 Remake too so I didn't disown him on the spot.

I put it on my PS4 after the first big patch and yeah, it wasn't great. I am still of the opinion that it should have never been released on the last gen consoles and should have spent a couple more years in production. So I stopped playing after a little while.

Skip forward to last year and out of curiosity, I put it on again and I'll say this. Patched to Hell and back and running on a PS5, this game is actually good. It plays more like a looter shooter like Borderlands with the constant swapping out of gear. The game now is a lot more stable and doesn't just crash for no reason. There are still bugs and I don't think you will ever get rid of those. But its stuff that we used to laugh at Bethesda games for, stuff like a corpse stuck frozen in a death animation. People clipping through scenery or maybe a car over reacting when you fire in its general direction and it flipping through the air because someone was stood behind it. Driving still sucks arse if you are driving a car, but riding a motorcycle is alright. Using a pistol is actually worth the effort now. Night City actually feels a lot more active with people wandering around the streets. Its not perfect but at least I'm not seeing clones of the same person stumbling down the street one after the other.

The story is there, its not great but its not awful. There was a really nice, quite touching scene in a futuristic brothel with a futuristic prostitute that actually surprised me before the murder continued. And I enjoyed the missions with Panama too. Also, using the Mantis blades and storming into an enemy camp with the regenerating health mod on and just slashing through the enemy is great fun.

I understand why people are upset about this game, if I'd spent money on it, I would be too. And I understand if you don't want to play the game for moral reasons. But it is worth your effort if you are curious.

You pretty much hit the nail in the head on why I'll never get this game. Even when I eventually get a ps5. The fact of the game is still buggy on a high-powered console leaves me with no desire to touch it. Not even if I was given the game for free. I have been beyond sick and tired of high budget "AAA" games being buggy and broken at launch. How about you greedy screw heads give your people time and release a game that's not completely broken at the street date? Only a few of your big ones even bother to try anymore. Nintendo isn't even safe from this as we've seen with the latest Pokemon game. Yet they still made loads of money and at least half a fandom was making excuses for the game's still buggy state. They just have the younger kids they don't know any better, or don't know how bad the newest iteration actually is in comparison to the quality games from the past

 

[meiam]

I'm going to say something controversial, I think this game is actually pretty good.

I say this with one caveat, I didn't actually pay any money for this game. I saw the mess happening a couple of years ago and had a good laugh at it and decided to pick up the game when it was dirt cheap to have a good look at the mess itself. Then, my brother got in touch with me telling me he had got it me for Christmas. Thankfully he'd had the good sense to get me FF7 Remake too so I didn't disown him on the spot.

I put it on my PS4 after the first big patch and yeah, it wasn't great. I am still of the opinion that it should have never been released on the last gen consoles and should have spent a couple more years in production. So I stopped playing after a little while.

Skip forward to last year and out of curiosity, I put it on again and I'll say this. Patched to Hell and back and running on a PS5, this game is actually good. It plays more like a looter shooter like Borderlands with the constant swapping out of gear. The game now is a lot more stable and doesn't just crash for no reason. There are still bugs and I don't think you will ever get rid of those. But its stuff that we used to laugh at Bethesda games for, stuff like a corpse stuck frozen in a death animation. People clipping through scenery or maybe a car over reacting when you fire in its general direction and it flipping through the air because someone was stood behind it. Driving still sucks arse if you are driving a car, but riding a motorcycle is alright. Using a pistol is actually worth the effort now. Night City actually feels a lot more active with people wandering around the streets. Its not perfect but at least I'm not seeing clones of the same person stumbling down the street one after the other.

The story is there, its not great but its not awful. There was a really nice, quite touching scene in a futuristic brothel with a futuristic prostitute that actually surprised me before the murder continued. And I enjoyed the missions with Panama too. Also, using the Mantis blades and storming into an enemy camp with the regenerating health mod on and just slashing through the enemy is great fun.

I understand why people are upset about this game, if I'd spent money on it, I would be too. And I understand if you don't want to play the game for moral reasons. But it is worth your effort if you are curious.

It really is a good game, I think it's about expectation. I still don't understand why people think witcher 3 is the greatest game of all time, but as someone who though it was just meh I went into CP2077 with very low expectation (and a few months after release) and thought it was super fun and spend something 140 hours on a single playtrough.

 

[BrawlMan]

really is a good game, I think it's about expectation. I still don't understand why people think witcher 3 is the greatest game of all time,

The same reason why you have certain people consider Red Dead Redemption 2, GTAV, or RE4 the "greatest games of all time!". The marketing sends them into a frenzy or these people set a frenzy into themselves and expect the sun, the moon, the Earth, or the entire universe. Shocker shocks, neither of these games are the greatest games of all time. I will give Resident Evil 4 credit for popularizing over the shoulder, even though it didn't invent it. Otherwise, no. All these greatest of all time statements are just people getting high off of their own farts.

 

[Zykon TheLich]

It really is a good game, I think it's about expectation. I still don't understand why people think witcher 3 is the greatest game of all time, but as someone who though it was just meh I went into CP2077 with very low expectation (and a few months after release) and thought it was super fun and spend something 140 hours on a single playtrough.

Now you see, I had very low expectations for it even before the launch shitshow, so when I bought it for half price on PC a year after release and put a bunch of mods in before playing I found it to be perfectly acceptable. Not great but certainly entertaining enough, and being used to playing low budget 40K games just for the IP, playing a high budget CP game just for the IP wasn't a problem.
Unfortunately the 1.5 update broke the rebalance mod and it's not been updated, and the level scaling etc without it irks me so much I refuse to play without it.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

All these greatest of all time statements are just people getting high off of their own farts.

Really, any "best of" statement is this, because you can't quantify what makes them "best"- it is all, quite literally, just peoples' opinions.