Do you believe in love?
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That's pretty much how I think about the whole thing really.archvile93 said:
I've seen it and I've seen my friends be really happy with their loved ones. As for me? Not so much, too much of a loner for such things.
Less and less every year, sadly.
I want to put as much interest into people as they put into me. And yet that is still with reservations given the sorts of women I've attracted in the past. Call me an antisocial dick if you want, but I find most people to be overly full of themselves and disingenuous to even simple courtesy.
I want to put as much interest into people as they put into me. And yet that is still with reservations given the sorts of women I've attracted in the past. Call me an antisocial dick if you want, but I find most people to be overly full of themselves and disingenuous to even simple courtesy.
Between family members? I'd say yes, if a duty to protect offspring (parents) and the natural inclination to work together (siblings in my experience) is love.
Between two adults who want to bone each other? No. They just wanna fuck.
Between two adults who want to bone each other? No. They just wanna fuck.
To all the cynics:
Well ... there's these things called 'mitochlorians', and they exist in your blood. And they help you to understand the nature of the Love. Some people are born with a high concentration of 'mitochlorians', and gives them a greater degree of control of the Love. It's even possible for some to have been conceived by the Love, and they may be the chosen one to bring balance to the Love.
See how meaningless it is to scientifically explain a base human emotion? Sure, it helps to understand the causes, but it doesn't alleviate the symptoms nor make you immune. Look, I'm as cynical and embittered as anyone, but you just look like an inexperienced kid when you say shit like 'love is a chemical imbalance!'.
Well ... there's these things called 'mitochlorians', and they exist in your blood. And they help you to understand the nature of the Love. Some people are born with a high concentration of 'mitochlorians', and gives them a greater degree of control of the Love. It's even possible for some to have been conceived by the Love, and they may be the chosen one to bring balance to the Love.
See how meaningless it is to scientifically explain a base human emotion? Sure, it helps to understand the causes, but it doesn't alleviate the symptoms nor make you immune. Look, I'm as cynical and embittered as anyone, but you just look like an inexperienced kid when you say shit like 'love is a chemical imbalance!'.
Not true... well, true sometimes, but my grandparents loved each other greatly.Jacco said:
I remember reading a beautiful story where someone went to a park, and they were sitting on a bench, and on the bench opposite were an elderly couple sitting together, and the man said "We made it, didn't we? We grew old together."
I'm not sure I got it word for word but plenty of people are in love their whole life. Also:
That. You've obviously not experienced it. I only have once, I never got said person and moved on after a very long time. Thankfully she wasn't in my main friendship group, I didn't have to see her on a regular basis. But I know that it's real because me and millions of others are proof of it.Sneaky-Pie said:
Well, there is no need to speculate. We know love exists. We can measure the chemical changes in the brain. We can understand the biological reasoning behind it; to prioritise certain members of the tribe(see:siblings/parents/children)
And, we can also feel it. Love is just a catchall feeling of attachment we feel when something is important to us. It's the same chemical process in our brain, and it creates the same type of attachment, whether it's a love for photography, children, the internet, or other forms of pleasure.
And, we can also feel it. Love is just a catchall feeling of attachment we feel when something is important to us. It's the same chemical process in our brain, and it creates the same type of attachment, whether it's a love for photography, children, the internet, or other forms of pleasure.
I dunno. But I believe in magic in a young girl's heart. Which has been metaphorically proven to be a viable analogue.
Not everyone has experienced love and, like any profound experience, you can't really understand it without first hand knowledge - that's why you have a lot of people using the word too cheaply. Love does not solve your problems, it costs and it doesn't last forever; you can kill it with abuse or just wear it out through carelessness. Just because people confuse it with infatuation and passion and surround it with a lot of fairytale nonsense about how it "should" be doesn't mean that it doesn't exist though.
Aside: my greatest pet peeve is people who use "love" as a classy way of saying "fuck" - I enjoy fucking but they aren't even close to synonyms.
Aside: my greatest pet peeve is people who use "love" as a classy way of saying "fuck" - I enjoy fucking but they aren't even close to synonyms.
I'm afraid it is because "love" is a label.
There is an emotion out there that is very difficult to describe. Many who experience it call it "love". Some who experience it don't. Some call other things "love": passion, desire, infatuation, preference, etc.
So, yes, I believe in that powerful emotion, and I call it "love". I hope you experience it someday, but I don't care what you call it when you do.
There is an emotion out there that is very difficult to describe. Many who experience it call it "love". Some who experience it don't. Some call other things "love": passion, desire, infatuation, preference, etc.
So, yes, I believe in that powerful emotion, and I call it "love". I hope you experience it someday, but I don't care what you call it when you do.
I believe you are thoroughly wrong. Love does not have to be fleeting and false, it can be permanent and fulfilling and doesn't need wild infatuation to continue. There is also nothing wrong with fleeting love, it doesn't make it less legitimate, it doesn't make it not love, sometimes love ends it doesn't mean it didn't exist. Permanent or not, love is not a roller-coaster ride of intense passion and mindless devotion or begrudging tedium, as you seem to think it is. It's a working love, it requires dedication of two people to communicate and work through problems. Love is not an idyllic patch of roses and sunshine, but it is good and comforts you when you're cold or tired or terrified. Love does not define you, but it is woven into the fabric of your being, helping you to be strong, encouraging you to grow as a person. Love between two people is not just romance, but trust, friendship, joy.. and yes, there is physical attraction, it's part of love and it is wonderful. Love is not really a feeling, but a bond, lovers are partners, they work together to be more than the sum of their parts. It doesn't have to be perfect, sometimes it hurts, but love exists, stop being to bitter to see it.
I'd like to believe. Then again, I'm still one of those hormonal teenagers you always hear throwing the word 'love' around. They say high school romances don't last, but I may as well have hope. I don't know... I think love is one of those things with a different meaning for everyone. A different feeling. But to put it generally, it's when you want to be the best you can, all for the sake of one person, and being around them makes you feel. Feel more intensely than anyone else you're ever around. They aren't perfect, neither are you, and that's okay, because you are right for each other.
"The best thing in life is finding someone who knows all your mistakes and weaknesses and still thinks you're completely amazing."
"The best thing in life is finding someone who knows all your mistakes and weaknesses and still thinks you're completely amazing."
I was fine in not believing about love until January of this year. Then suddenly my heart kick started into over-drive and started pumping out this warm gooey feeling of sheer retardedness.
Makes me want to do things I know are a bad idea.
But I wouldn't trade it for the world...
Makes me want to do things I know are a bad idea.
But I wouldn't trade it for the world...
To be honest, I believe that society and pop-culture make love wayyyyyy too unobtainable. Watch a movie, read a book, it dosent matter. Today's society holds love and relationships to such a high standard it's crazy.
BUT,
At the same time, I still believe love exsists. I've been in relationships with the same girl for over 3 years at a time, and think I've felt it. -sigh- what I'm trying to say is, that while I believe it exsists, I think society gives us the idea that its wayyyyyyyyy more then what its supposed to be.
Love in my books is something simple and just something that feels right. It's like comparing fate to chance. Is our partners something you decide? or something pre-ordained?
It's all a matter of prespective to the individual.
BUT,
At the same time, I still believe love exsists. I've been in relationships with the same girl for over 3 years at a time, and think I've felt it. -sigh- what I'm trying to say is, that while I believe it exsists, I think society gives us the idea that its wayyyyyyyyy more then what its supposed to be.
Love in my books is something simple and just something that feels right. It's like comparing fate to chance. Is our partners something you decide? or something pre-ordained?
It's all a matter of prespective to the individual.
The best thing that has ever happened to me just fell apart today - out of nowhere
This is most likely the worst day of my life (far above the times where i was suicidal or close to death or whatever)
Do I believe in Love?....i don't need to- it exists.
The most rewarding thing to pursue - because it can't be pursued.
It demands a lot of work...is the most rewarding...but even if you put the best of effort and work into it....it still can vanish just like that without reason.
Nothing as fragile was ever that strong.
and even if I never recover from this time where I expirienced real love....it was/is so worth it.
This is most likely the worst day of my life (far above the times where i was suicidal or close to death or whatever)
Do I believe in Love?....i don't need to- it exists.
The most rewarding thing to pursue - because it can't be pursued.
It demands a lot of work...is the most rewarding...but even if you put the best of effort and work into it....it still can vanish just like that without reason.
Nothing as fragile was ever that strong.
and even if I never recover from this time where I expirienced real love....it was/is so worth it.