Far Right Boogaloo Bois from Texas Are Who Set Fire to Police Precinct During George Floyd Protest in Minneapolis and Open Fired on Police

[Houseman]

Here's how you know someone is or isn't Antifa.
Did they do something violent? Not Antifa.
Did they do something peaceful? Antifa.
Have they been arrested? Not Antifa.
Are they featured in a news article? Not Antifa.

See, Antifa is whatever you need them to be for your narrative.

 

[Revnak]

Here's how you know someone is or isn't Antifa.
Did they do something violent? Not Antifa.
Did they do something peaceful? Antifa.
Have they been arrested? Not Antifa.
Are they featured in a news article? Not Antifa.

See, Antifa is whatever you need them to be for your narrative.

I’d like to point out that the kind of people who make the arguments you’re talking about here are just boring ass libs who think fascism is fought with votes and Tom Cotton op-eds, so they should hardly qualify as Antifa. I resent the association with such people.

 

[Gusphase]

You said Antifa was involved. Trump was who claimed that. Of course you were not even remotely accurate in claiming that the protest, rioting and violence were the fault of the right. We made that pretty clear already here:

National Guard called into Minneapolis

https://www.fox9.com/news/minnesota-governor-activates-national-guard-to-restore-calm-amid-escalating-unrest-over-george-floyd-death After last night's riots burnt down parts of the city, the governor calls in the national guard to pick up the pieces and restore order.

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Police shoot (another) unarmed black man in the back 7 times

https://www.kenoshanews.com/news/local/watch-now-neighbors-man-shot-by-police-at-40th-street-and-28th-ave/article_f1adbd13-3a15-5cdd-bd4e-95113ca36de4.html In Kenosha Wisconsin, Jacob Blake had broken up a verbal altercation and was trying to leave in his car when police grabbed him and shot...

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Protest in Minneapolis

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/video/4566460-protesters-clash-with-minneapolis-police/ After 4 police officers killed a black man in the street, protesters took to the streets in Minneapolis in a BLM demonstration, with the cops coming in to crackdown on the protests, shooting them with tear...

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Ahmaud Arbery: Is this a strike against Citizen's Arrest, Gun Control, The Legal System, or All?

On February 23, 2020, a young man went on his usual run around his neighborhood. This neighborhood had a string of robberies, so when a ex police officer (Gregory McMichael) and his son (Travis McMichael) saw Arbery running, they grabbed their guns and jumped in their truck, chasing him down...

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Another Incident in Portland

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/30/us/portland-protest-fatal-shooting/index.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/ @Revnak Hey Rev! Are you ok? You have any local knowledge that could give us more context on this?

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Feds are reportedly abducting people in portland

It sounds like the feds are driving around in unmarked vans grabbing random protesters. So this is something going on in a country where it really shouldn't be happening. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/17/portland-protests-federal-arrests/ So that's fun.

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Armed civilian, 17, shoots 2 dead during Kenosha happening

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/26/jacob-blake-kenosha-police-protests/ https://www.wsj.com/articles/two-dead-in-kenosha-shooting-police-say-11598436656 I can provide youtube clips of the event, but it's raw and graphic. Ask in private and I can send them, if you can't find it...

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As you can see, this has been discussed EXTENSIVELY.

None of the articles you posted have anything to do with what I'm talking about. We have one of the original 4 indicted for the arson, a black man, claiming that he took part in the riot and declaring the arson a necessary aspect of the riots.

'That's What Rioting Is, It's Mass Destruction': Staples Man Charged In Third Precinct Arson Told Interviewer He Participated In Riots

A 26-year-old Staples man is the latest to be charged in the burning of the Third Precinct police station in south Minneapolis during the nights of unrest immediately following the death of George Floyd.

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MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — A 26-year-old Staples man is the latest to be charged in the burning of the Third Precinct police station in south Minneapolis during the nights of unrest immediately following the death of George Floyd.

Bryce Michael Williams is charged with one count of conspiracy to commit arson, according to a federal criminal complaint filed this week. Williams, who was arrested Tuesday, is the latest person to be caught in connection with the burning of the police station. So far, authorities have arrested at least seven others, six of which are from Minnesota.

RELATED: Brainerd Man Arrested In Colorado Linked To 3rd Precinct Arson

According to the federal complaint, surveillance video from the Third Precinct recorded Williams outside the building on May 28, the night it was overrun, holding a molotov cocktail. Videos from Williams’ TikTok account showed him at the precinct, wearing the same clothes.

Investigators also found an online interview with Williams, a self-described social media influencer, where he admits to participating in the riots. “I participated in the riots, of course,” Williams told The Nate Thirty Show. “I’m with my people.” He said that rioting was justified as a form of protest, while looting was not.

When asked if burning down buildings is part of rioting, Williams replies: “Yeah, definitely, that’s part of rioting, it’s mass destruction — that’s what rioting is, it’s mass destruction.”

 

[Revnak]

Wait, when did I say that? I never said the left was "to blame" for the Boogaloo movement. My only statement was that, when you read the court documents on any of the arrested boogs, they clearly make anti police, anti racist, and pro blm statements. I'm not even really concerned with whether or not they are right wing or left wing.

Just that they aren’t white supremacists

 

[lil devils x]

None of the articles you posted have anything to do with what I'm talking about. We have one of the original 4 indicted for the arson, a black man, claiming that he took part in the riot and declaring the arson a necessary aspect of the riots.

'That's What Rioting Is, It's Mass Destruction': Staples Man Charged In Third Precinct Arson Told Interviewer He Participated In Riots

A 26-year-old Staples man is the latest to be charged in the burning of the Third Precinct police station in south Minneapolis during the nights of unrest immediately following the death of George Floyd.

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"WCCO | CBS Minnesota
CBSN Minnesota
WATCH NOW
‘That’s What Rioting Is, It’s Mass Destruction’: Staples Man Charged In Third Precinct Arson Told Interviewer He Participated In Riots
June 18, 2020 at 8:30 am
Filed Under:Arson, Bryce Michael Williams, George Floyd, Local TV, Minneapolis News, Riot, Third Precinct


WATCH LIVE
CBSN Live
MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — A 26-year-old Staples man is the latest to be charged in the burning of the Third Precinct police station in south Minneapolis during the nights of unrest immediately following the death of George Floyd.

Bryce Michael Williams is charged with one count of conspiracy to commit arson, according to a federal criminal complaint filed this week. Williams, who was arrested Tuesday, is the latest person to be caught in connection with the burning of the police station. So far, authorities have arrested at least seven others, six of which are from Minnesota.

RELATED: Brainerd Man Arrested In Colorado Linked To 3rd Precinct Arson

According to the federal complaint, surveillance video from the Third Precinct recorded Williams outside the building on May 28, the night it was overrun, holding a molotov cocktail. Videos from Williams’ TikTok account showed him at the precinct, wearing the same clothes.

Investigators also found an online interview with Williams, a self-described social media influencer, where he admits to participating in the riots. “I participated in the riots, of course,” Williams told The Nate Thirty Show. “I’m with my people.” He said that rioting was justified as a form of protest, while looting was not.

When asked if burning down buildings is part of rioting, Williams replies: “Yeah, definitely, that’s part of rioting, it’s mass destruction — that’s what rioting is, it’s mass destruction.”

Did you read the threads I linked? We have articles ALL throughout those threads. Somehow I have difficulty believing you read them to know that none of them have anything to do with what you are talking about. In those threads, we thought it was primarily protesters and rioters who did the violence. There were in fact protest posts on twitter saying they needed to destroy buildings to " target their money" to FORCE the powers that be to act because they said that people ignored the protests UNTIL they targeted their money in terms of destruction and an entire discussion on how while MLK preached peace, the violence and rioting and destruction that went along with it was extreme in order to have action taken. I think most here are in agreement that the civil rights movement would not have happened without the violence and damage that came along with it to make it happen. I don't think I have seen anyone denying that to be the case here.

The civil rights movement resulted in mass destruction as well. This isn't anything unknown or new here. Desegregation was violent. Hell, even allowing Female surgeons and female supervisors took violence. NONE of these changes came peacefully. IS there ANYONE who thinks that these things came peacefully in any of our history at all?

To make real changes, people have to get pissed and when people get pissed they tend to let people know exactly HOW pissed they are about it. That is what is happening here. That was why this was not just ignored and they filed charges, changed policies and changed laws. It is NOWHERE near enough yet, but it got their attention.

This wasn't the only person there saying they needed to "target the money" which of course means destruction and looting.

 

[Gusphase]

Did you read the threads I linked? We have articles ALL throughout those threads. Somehow I have difficulty believing you read them to know that none of them have anything to do with what you are talking about. In those threads, we thought it was primarily protesters and rioters who did the violence. There were in fact protest posts on twitter saying they needed to destroy buildings to " target their money" to FORCE the powers that be to act because they said that people ignored the protests UNTIL they targeted their money in terms of destruction and an entire discussion on how while MLK preached peace, the violence and rioting and destruction that went along with it was extreme in order to have action taken. I think most here are in agreement that the civil rights movement would not have happened without the violence and damage that came along with it to make it happen. I don't think I have seen anyone denying that to be the case here.

The civil rights movement resulted in mass destruction as well. This isn't anything unknown or new here. Desegregation was violent. Hell, even allowing Female surgeons took violence. NONE of these changes came peacefully. IS there ANYONE who thinks that these things came peacefully in any of our history at all?

To make real changes, people have to get pissed and when people get pissed they tend to let people know exactly HOW pissed they are about it. That is what is happening here. That was why this was not just ignored and they filed charges, changed policies and changed laws. It is NOWHERE near enough yet, but it got their attention.

First of all, if you actually have a point to make, you could at least copy and paste the quotes from the article that you claim are relevant to the discussion. You have repeatedly failed to address any point that I brought up.

I also find this strategy of "violence is necessary" combined with "the real violence is being caused by right wing agitators," to be the most annoying thing I've run into on the internet. If you want to make the argument that you are pro violence (for whatever cause), great. I can at least respect that stance.

 

[Gusphase]

Just that they aren’t white supremacists

It's a statement of fact. The articles that I've been presented with here repeatedly mention three boogaloos arrested in Minnesota. One is the subject of the OP, who I have not seen express any "white supremacist" ideology, and the two boogs who tried to join up with Hamas who directly stated they wanted to kill white supremacists.

 

[tstorm823]

"Ideologically, antifa in the United States sees itself as the successor to anti-Nazi activists of the 1930s. European activist groups that originally organized to oppose World War II-era fascist dictatorships re-emerged in the 1970s and 1980s to oppose white supremacy and skinheads, eventually spreading to the United States.[78] "
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* rolls eyes* Antifa =\= anarchists even though they look the same wearing all black. Although there are some anarchists who agree with Antifa, Not all Antifa agree with Anarchists. Quit being that guy who says " all those people look the same so they must be the same" . Yes, some Antifa members are violent, but not all Antifa members are violent. Some Antifa just provide first aid and water and try to protect others at protests. They certainly are not a militia. They are anti Racists/ Anti Nazis for the most part. They do believe that it takes violence to stop the Nazis or Nazis will harm/ kill people and they are not wrong in that belief.

We've been through this, devils. They see themselves as successors to an explicitly communist militia from the 1930s, and the fascists they aimed to destroy were the social democratic parties. The original "Antifa" were Stalinists, both in literal support of Stalin and in agreeing with his ideology. They used the phrase "social fascism" to describe social democracies and progressive movements. That's the group that modern Antifa models itself after.

Violence is bad, but that's not why you should be against Antifa. You should be against Antifa because they believe capitalism is fascism, they believe liberalism is fascism, and they believe progressivism is fascism. They believe you are a fascist. The Anti in Antifa is pointed at you too.

 

[lil devils x]

First of all, if you actually have a point to make, you could at least copy and paste the quotes from the article that you claim are relevant to the discussion. You have repeatedly failed to address any point that I brought up.

I also find this strategy of "violence is necessary" combined with "the real violence is being caused by right wing agitators," to be the most annoying thing I've run into on the internet. If you want to make the argument that you are pro violence (for whatever cause), great. I can at least respect that stance.

Pshh I am not digging through those, and I think I actually missed some of the threads.. You are talking about months worth of discussion. You made the false claim, I was showing you where you could find out that it was false. The point is No one here thinks it is only Boogs who set fire to the police station, that it was only boogs who looted and destroyed.. Not at all. I think I can go as far as to say literally NO ONE here thinks that this was Boogs only. The point is that you claiming ANYONE making it out to be boogs or right problem only is blatantly false. You came in and made a claim, it is up to you to do your homework to catch up to see that was not the case. Everyone else has already read it as they participated in the threads.

Who said only " real violence" was by right wingers? Source please. I am not " pro violence" however, I do not see that they are wrong that sometimes it may take violence to stop violence. For example, Antifa's belief that it takes violence to stop Nazis was not wrong, as we saw that it took a LOT of violence to stop the Nazi's in the end of WW2.

I do not see that violence is the " answer" because the world is not black and white like that, and the actual answers to these things are far more complicated than that and take re-social conditioning of society to make the long term behavior changes necessary to actually solve the problems long term. The violence is a last resort RESPONSE to violence initiated against the people in the first place. The violence and destruction during protests is only a RESPONSE, not the initial aggressor here. Those protesting and rioting here are not who started the violence and destruction here.

 

[lil devils x]

We've been through this, devils. They see themselves as successors to an explicitly communist militia from the 1930s, and the fascists they aimed to destroy were the social democratic parties. The original "Antifa" were Stalinists, both in literal support of Stalin and in agreeing with his ideology. They used the phrase "social fascism" to describe social democracies and progressive movements. That's the group that modern Antifa models itself after.

Violence is bad, but that's not why you should be against Antifa. You should be against Antifa because they believe capitalism is fascism, they believe liberalism is fascism, and they believe progressivism is fascism. They believe you are a fascist. The Anti in Antifa is pointed at you too.

No matter how many times we go through this, you still are not differentiating between US Antifa and Europe.. That was why I actually linked it to you this time to make it perfectly clear. It is like you can't separate the two no matter how many times you see it.

 

[Houseman]

The point is No one here thinks it is only Boogs who set fire to the police station, that it was only boogs who looted and destroyed.. Not at all.

He's not making claims about people HERE. He's saying that the linked article makes it seem like "it was only Boogs" and is therefore misleading.

 

[Gusphase]

Pshh I am not digging through those, and I think I actually missed some of the threads.. You are talking about months worth of discussion. You made the false claim, I was showing you where you could find out that it was false. The point is No one here thinks it is only Boogs who set fire to the police station, that it was only boogs who looted and destroyed.. Not at all. I think I can go as far as to say literally NO ONE here thinks that this was Boogs only. The point is that you claiming ANYONE making it out to be boogs or right problem only is blatantly false. You came in and made a claim, it is up to you to do your homework to catch up to see that was not the case. Everyone else has already read it as they participated in the threads.

Who said only " real violence" was by right wingers? Source please. I am not " pro violence" however, I do not see that they are wrong that sometimes it may take violence to stop violence. For example, Antifa's belief that it takes violence to stop Nazis was not wrong, as we saw that it took a LOT of violence to stop the Nazi's in the end of WW2.

I do not see that violence is the " answer" because the world is not black and white like that, and the actual answers to these things are far more complicated than that and take re-social conditioning of society to make the long term behavior changes necessary to actually solve the problems long term. The violence is a last resort RESPONSE to violence initiated against the people in the first place. The violence and destruction during protests is only a RESPONSE, not the initial aggressor here. Those protesting and rioting here are not who started the violence and destruction here.

Can you give me one quote or section? One? One that is relevant to the points that I'm making?

I already pointed out that you said leftists weren't responsible "at all" for the destruction of the precinct in Minneapolis. You did say that.

 

[lil devils x]

Can you give me one quote or section? One? One that is relevant to the points that I'm making?

I already pointed out that you said leftists weren't responsible "at all" for the destruction of the precinct in Minneapolis. You did say that.

Leftists= Antifa. Protesters are not right or left. They are people pissed off due to police killing people. We actually watched the footage of the protesters attacking the police station that Unicorn Riot had been posting that Fieldy had linked here:

National Guard called into Minneapolis

Oh so the Police were meant to just stand there and take it not try to disperse the crowds throwing rocks. Assuming the rocks were thrown first and the rounds were only shot in retaliation and only at people throwing rocks, the tracer rounds are far more dangerous than rocks dude.

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It was pretty apparent to every one of us who watched this going on live at the time that the protesters were involved in the destruction of the police station.
Me talking about the protesters burning down the police station here:

National Guard called into Minneapolis

The Police have left entirely taking their vehicles and likely supplies etc with them. Until the National Guard turn up there is no law enforcement in the area, except maybe at the home of the officer being reported as responsible for the mans death (assuming they've not taken the officer...

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This post for further context of what I was responding to:

National Guard called into Minneapolis

The Police have left entirely taking their vehicles and likely supplies etc with them. Until the National Guard turn up there is no law enforcement in the area, except maybe at the home of the officer being reported as responsible for the mans death (assuming they've not taken the officer...

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Here is me talking about the exact points the man who was arrested in your link above talking about the violence:

National Guard called into Minneapolis

Are they actually? The police work largely for the people who own things. So the fact that they seem to reliably act a certain way towards a particular community is arguably on those very same people that own things. Including those businesses. People are being murdered for their race as...

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National Guard called into Minneapolis

I'm for rioting until that sick power tripping murderer is locked up instead of the coincidentally black reporter on the scene of the protest. They will keep doing this shit as long as they keep getting away with it. What power do you really have when politeness is either ignored, dismissed as...

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National Guard called into Minneapolis

I'm for rioting until that sick power tripping murderer is locked up instead of the coincidentally black reporter on the scene of the protest. They will keep doing this shit as long as they keep getting away with it. What power do you really have when politeness is either ignored, dismissed as...

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National Guard called into Minneapolis

It may not be precisely what it appears to be, but it's weird enough that it almost has to be real. Yea, they elected Biff from back to the future as president so strange times we live in indeed.

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National Guard called into Minneapolis

Oh so the Police were meant to just stand there and take it not try to disperse the crowds throwing rocks. Assuming the rocks were thrown first and the rounds were only shot in retaliation and only at people throwing rocks, the tracer rounds are far more dangerous than rocks dude.

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National Guard called into Minneapolis

Oh so the Police were meant to just stand there and take it not try to disperse the crowds throwing rocks. Assuming the rocks were thrown first and the rounds were only shot in retaliation and only at people throwing rocks, the tracer rounds are far more dangerous than rocks dude.

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There is plenty more where we discussed whether or not evidence was in there and such somewhere but I am sure as hell not digging any further, as there is months worth of posts to go through there. LOL

 

[lil devils x]

He's not making claims about people HERE. He's saying that the linked article makes it seem like "it was only Boogs" and is therefore misleading.

Didn't you watch the live footage in the comments from Fieldy's links at the time of them attacking the police station? We all saw this if you were paying attention to the thread. There was no way protesters were NOT involved with the police station takeover and burning it down. If you had clicked on the links posted at the time, you would have seen it too. Unicorn Riot was posting footage of everything at the time.

 

[Houseman]

Didn't you watch the live footage in the comments from Fieldy's links at the time of them attacking the police station? We all saw this if you were paying attention to the thread. There was no way protesters were NOT involved with the police station takeover and burning it down.

He's talking about The. Linked. Article.

The article that YOU linked in the beginning of THIS thread.
The article along with YOUR headline that says

FAR RIGHT BOOGALOO BOIS FROM TEXAS ARE WHO SET FIRE TO POLICE PRECINCT DURING GEORGE FLOYD PROTEST IN MINNEAPOLIS AND OPEN FIRED ON POLICE


He's saying that THAT article, and your headline, makes it seem like "it was only Boogs" and is therefore misleading.


No amount of "b-but, we cast blame of the protesters before!" is going to change that.

 

[lil devils x]

He's talking about The. Linked. Article.

The article that YOU linked in the beginning of THIS thread.
The article along with YOUR headline that says

FAR RIGHT BOOGALOO BOIS FROM TEXAS ARE WHO SET FIRE TO POLICE PRECINCT DURING GEORGE FLOYD PROTEST IN MINNEAPOLIS AND OPEN FIRED ON POLICE


He's saying that THAT article, and your headline, makes it seem like "it was only Boogs" and is therefore misleading.


No amount of "b-but, we cast blame of the protesters before!" is going to change that.

From the article in the OP:

"Hunter had bragged about his role in the Minneapolis riots on Facebook, publicly proclaiming, “I helped the community burn down that police station” and “I didn’t’ [sic] protest peacefully Dude … Want something to change? Start risking felonies for what is good.”

That is why you read the articles and not just the headlines? You realize I quoted this already in the OP right? Community = the rest of the people there burning it down with him and partying? Everyone watched this happen.. it isn't some secret.

 

[Houseman]

So when are you going to change the topic title to "FAR RIGHT BOOGALOO BOIS FROM TEXAS HELPED SET FIRE TO POLICE PRECINCT..."?

 

[Revnak]

It's a statement of fact. The articles that I've been presented with here repeatedly mention three boogaloos arrested in Minnesota. One is the subject of the OP, who I have not seen express any "white supremacist" ideology, and the two boogs who tried to join up with Hamas who directly stated they wanted to kill white supremacists.

I question whether a dude joins a random gaming forum to comment in one thread about rw terror out of a strong interest in representing facts very accurately while repeatedly bringing up a single black terrorist as a counterpoint when numerous more openly leftist counter examples exist but are mostly white guys.

 

[Houseman]

I question whether a dude joins a random gaming forum to comment in one thread about rw terror out of a strong interest in representing facts very accurately while repeatedly bringing up a single black terrorist as a counterpoint when numerous more openly leftist counter examples exist but are mostly white guys.

Yeah, we gotta grasp any reason we can to dismiss someone's point. Their profile, their sign-up date, the fact that this is a gaming forum, anything that we can use... Have we mentioned his avatar yet? Shoot, yeah, we did. Hey, how about the fact that they only have one "like"? Surely that means we don't have to listen to him!

/s/s/s/s/s

 

[Revnak]

Yeah, we gotta grasp any reason we can to dismiss someone's point. Their profile, their sign-up date, the fact that this is a gaming forum, anything that we can use... Have we mentioned his avatar yet? Shoot, yeah, we did. Hey, how about the fact that they only have one "like"? Surely that means we don't have to listen to him!

/s/s/s/s/s

Houseman, I get that you’re obsessed with the platonic realm of ideals and think only the pure words of an argument matter, but maybe my ability to detect red flags should be given a modicum of thought. Like these ones.

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