Morrowind 2011 Mod Collection Pulled After Complaints

[seditary]

What's more, as I understand things, the guy putting together Morrowwind 2011 wasn't just using someone else's work and compiling it. Apparently he himself had to do some work to get all those mods to work together seamlessly. As anyone who has modded a game, even one designed for it like Bethesda's games can tell you, mods conflict with each other like crazy in some very unexpected ways. The guy does deserve credit for getting all those mods to play well with each other so to speak.

Yeah, apparently mod creators should get praised and loved for their effort in improving Bethesda's work, but this guy should be threatened and trashed for his effort in improving the mod creator's work. (using the word improving loosely since it obviously doesn't always apply on a case by case basis)

 

[Badabukavich]

Seems like both sides are at fault. The person who put it all together didn't go through the necessary channels and contact the individual modders to alert them about his project which may have had the overall impression it was all his work. The individual modders seemed to have overreacted to the whole situation and refused some sort of compromise; however with the internet being what it is, if anything is up for D/L for a second it can be distributed everywhere so ultimately the community wins but the creators lose.

 

[GotMalkAvian]

You know, I've downloaded plenty of mod compilations, and I really like them. Especially in a case like this, they bring together the best mods for a game and documentation on how to make them work together properly. Anyone who's ever downloaded more than one mod for a game knows how much of a nightmare compatibility issues can be.
As long as Tyler credited all of the original authors (which it seems he did) and didn't try to make a profit off the mod pack (which, as far as I can tell, he didn't), I don't really see a problem here. Yes, the original authors worked hard on these mods and deserve credit. However, they've been given credit, and the idea of fanmade mods is that they be freely distributed throughout the community. As far as I'm concerned, the people fighting Tyler are getting pissy that they're not getting recognition that they wouldn't have gotten anyway. Seriously, how many of us have taken the time to email the creators of every mod we've ever used to thank them for their hard work?

 

[Atros81]

Bleh... the ignorance of copyright law here is astounding. These mod writers DO have rights... which do include how these mods are distributed.

 

[Spark Ignition]

I hope he posts the usernames or emails of these assholes so they get spammed into oblivion and people know whos mods to stop supporting. I don't care who is right or wrong here, those people are fucking douchebags, plain and simple.

yes but let's keep this civil and not resort to trolling, shall we?

 

[Eri]

I hope he posts the usernames or emails of these assholes so they get spammed into oblivion and people know whos mods to stop supporting. I don't care who is right or wrong here, those people are fucking douchebags, plain and simple.

yes but let's keep this civil and not resort to trolling, shall we?

That was -not- trolling. Not in any shape or form of the definition.

 

[Patrick Dare]

Would someone who has already downloaded it mind starting/sharing a torrent? Because "seriously, fuck those guys".

Post a torrent of it, say you didn't upload it. Smile as your connection spreads with the most efficient filesharing network in existence.

Problem solved.

About that, got the link for the torrent? or A torrent with the pack in it?

I'm trying but apparently no site wants me to upload it.

 

[The Hairminator]

Don't worry, people. If it's been online for a day it is bound to have spread. Just look around for it, that's all I'll say :3

 

[Spark Ignition]

I hope he posts the usernames or emails of these assholes so they get spammed into oblivion and people know whos mods to stop supporting. I don't care who is right or wrong here, those people are fucking douchebags, plain and simple.

yes but let's keep this civil and not resort to trolling, shall we?

That was -not- trolling. Not in any shape or form of the definition.

Not your statement, I mean the concept of posting their emails and spamming them. That's Anonymous tactics right there. I'm not suggesting you were serious, just. Y'know.

 

[Deadlock Radium]

...spammed into oblivion...

Hurr durr.

OT: Why the hell would they go to legal actions (I'm Norwegian, that's the reason for my poor English)? Aren't mods in regular usually free?

 

[The Grim Ace]

I've got to fault both sides on this one: he should have given the modders credit but the modders should realize there work is released freely already and credits are perfectly okay. He stepped over the line by making it seem like the mods were his and they stepped over the line with fake sounding copyright claims. Oh well, there are copies everywhere.

 

[Cowart]

By posting a story from Joystiq on this forum without the author's consent, the maker of this thread is also violating copyright laws in the same way, and would be whether the source and author was cited or not. If you support the author's rights unconditionally, would you side with the author if they requested this thread be deleted for copyright infringement? The needless pursuit of copyright control helps nothing, especially in circumstances such as these.

I've got to fault both sides on this one: he should have given the modders credit

Credit was given.

 

[sircaptainking]

Don't care about right's these people were never going to make money of off it. These people just want attention. All they want is MEMEMMEMEMEMEM I DID THIS! It's a collaboration. You are getting credited. That is all you need not internet fame. Alot of people wouldn't even know about these mods unless we went and searched for them individually.

Doesn't matter because it's all over the torrent hubs and everywhere already.
These guys can go choke on dicks.

 

[Vkmies]

That's sad. I really, really love morrowind. Actually, it might be my favorite game of all time. This pack looked AWESOME and a good excuse to start playing the game for like a millionth time.

 

[Om Nom Nom]

Would someone who has already downloaded it mind starting/sharing a torrent? Because "seriously, fuck those guys".

Post a torrent of it, say you didn't upload it. Smile as your connection spreads with the most efficient filesharing network in existence.

Problem solved.

About that, got the link for the torrent? or A torrent with the pack in it?

I'm trying but apparently no site wants me to upload it.

Are you trying to upload the entire pack or just a .torrent file? For a .torrent I'd recommend... er... well, I can't post it publicly, I'd get moderated into the floorboards. I'll PM a link.

E: Ah, someone's already posted a link. I'd edit it out of your post before a mod spots that. :\

A few things of use...

-links snip-

Look at a cached pageview of morrowind2011.wordpress.com for the instructions for setting the whole thing up.

The cache will change eventually, here's a save of it [http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?0d3z5s84m1s0eth].

 

[Om Nom Nom]

E: Ack, double post.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

And thus Morrowind 2011 because the most reproduced Morrowind mod ever, spread around by countless 3rd parties who were all quoted as saying "seriously, fuck those guys."

Ok, this is probably the exact reason the modders were not happy in the first place. First and foremost it's not a mod, it's a package containing other peoples mods. The incorrect notion that he created these mods [and to be honest that's the impression some gaming sites gave] would no doubt have angered those that took the time and effort to create said mods.

It's always be called a collaboration of mods. Considering the mods were most likely made for free, the modders should just be happy that people are enjoying their content as they have made the mods selflessly. It makes no sense to offer a mod for free and then have a hissy fit when it's essentially put into a "Best of" mod compilation. Personally I think they are letting their egos go to their head and blowing it completely out of proportion.

this for sure, he creditted them, which what more can they ask for (sure he should have asked permission first) but still, if my mom was included in a package of the best of mods, i would be fucking stoked that i did that, and that someone recognized it out there and that lots of people now will get streamlined to enjoy my product.

 

[Weaver]

Maybe he should just compile a list of all the mods he used and release that with instructions.

 

[Gruevy]

Ah, looks like people still value their personal status over letting others have something streamlined and easy to use. Gruevy.

 

[Serioli]

A couple of Australian sites apparently still have it.

http://www.gamepron.com/news/2011/01/03/morrowind-2011-mod-complete-download-here/

and

http://games.on.net/file/39324/Morrowind_2011_Mod_Compendium

(Correct at time of posting)