Poll: Lying to get laid is OK?

[Kungfu_Teddybear]

No of course it's not, lying to get laid is such a douchebag move.

Did you actually think this through at all. Everyone lies, particularly in the early stages of a relationship:
When asked the question "Do you like my hair?" almost any man will answer: "Yes you look beautiful not "No it looks fucking awful". Particularly a man who is trying to get laid.

Pro-tip: When a woman asks "What are you thinking?" Lie to her. Seriously. It's just easier that way.

Lying is part of the social contract. It is necessary to maintain human relationships.

Yes. yes I did think it through. You may have needed to lie in your relationship but I didn't. Me and my girlfriend are honest with each other. If I get say a haircut and she doesn't like it she tells me. If She's wearing something I don't like I'll tell her, honesty in a relationship is an important thing and in the long run it's better to be honest.

 

[Terminal Blue]

I thought cross dressing landed in the transgender category. You know, with the shemales and whatnot.

Oh, right.. You're not a bad person, you're just that ignorant. I see.

We have two options here. Either I assume you have some congenital problem which makes you incapable of understanding these things and just let you run around being stupid and offensive because your poor little brain can't be expected to know better, or I assume that you're a reasonably intelligent person who could have taken a moment to educate yourself before opening your mouth but made a conscious choice not to which you can be held responsible for. Which is it to be?

If you can't open your mouth without sounding homophobic, then maybe that should tell you something about yourself. Give it some thought.

I find that people will stop jumping down your throat when you don't give them reason to.

 

[Deadcyde]

i don't always lie.. i actually tell her i was thinking that if we got robbed right now i would totally save the day with the moves i learned from metal gear solids CQC.

she's happy when i say nothing now

 

[Conza]

Wow, more than half the people again, of the number that thought 'no' (like me), said 'sure, if its a one night stand' - that's pretty discraceful isn't it?

 

[Rathcoole]

The type of person who lies to get laid is also the type of person I'd call a douchebag.

If you want sex so badly, then hire a prostitute, at least then you're being honest about what you really want.

(Not that I'm advocating the hiring of illegal services).

I agree with this. Hire a prostitute if you are that desperate. That way no pointless lie's, No wasted time and no hurt feeling's. Everybody involved knows just where they stand.

 

[Araksardet]

Depends on what kind of lie.

I'm just thinking out loud here, but the distinction is how much her (or his!) decision to sleep with you is based on that one lie in question. If you're lying to get them to like you better in a more general sense - i.e. you lie about your favorite color, what food you like, your grades in high school, or whatever - then, while not exactly admirable, these aren't really serious lies. Who hasn't downplayed their hate for a food their love interest enjoys, or listened with interest while they talked about something less than interesting, or watched Twilight and pretended to think it's deep and meaningful? Most have, and not much comes of the lie. White lies function as a social lubricant; if you don't need it, great, but most people do, or else they don't think about it and just lie without even noticing. So long as your whole relationship isn't built mostly or entirely on these lies, a fib here and there isn't going to do much harm.

If you're lying such that they're sleeping with you because of the lie (or they're not refusing to sleep with you because of the lie), then it's more problematic. Denying you have an STD that you have, or perhaps even claiming to be wealthy when you still live in your mother's basement, gives them radically false information which robs them of the ability to make truly *informed* consent (informed as to the consequences of their having sex with you - they think they'll be healthy and potentially rich afterwards, which they won't). Of course, women (and men!) shouldn't be silly enough to believe men (or women!) who make these kinds of claims, but that doesn't excuse the liars from lying in the first place.

Between "Yeah, blue is my favorite color too!" and "AIDS? Me? Never!", there's a really big grey area. Hard thing to give a point-blank answer to - and I don't think your intentions or feelings towards the person matter all that much.

 

[Magicmad5511]

I'm not sure but one thing to remember is that its your neck on the line when they find out.

 

[BringBackBuck]

No of course it's not, lying to get laid is such a douchebag move.

Did you actually think this through at all. Everyone lies, particularly in the early stages of a relationship:
When asked the question "Do you like my hair?" almost any man will answer: "Yes you look beautiful not "No it looks fucking awful". Particularly a man who is trying to get laid.

Pro-tip: When a woman asks "What are you thinking?" Lie to her. Seriously. It's just easier that way.

Lying is part of the social contract. It is necessary to maintain human relationships.

Yes. yes I did think it through. You may have needed to lie in your relationship but I didn't. Me and my girlfriend are honest with each other. If I get say a haircut and she doesn't like it she tells me. If She's wearing something I don't like I'll tell her, honesty in a relationship is an important thing and in the long run it's better to be honest.

Really? You have never lied to your partner about anything? Never said you would put down a controller in 5 minutes and actually played a game for another 20 minutes? Never agreed with your girlfriend to avoid an argument?

You turn up to the restaurant 5 minutes late and your girlfriend is sitting there with her friends and says "what kept you" do you answer: "I was about to leave, but then I had to take a shit, and not just a quick dump, but it took ages because I really haven't been getting enough fibre in my diet recently"

 

[Smooth Operator]

It's all up to the individual, fact is everyone lies (that includes visual enhancments), if people really told the truth then we would probably go extinct long ago.

They say all is fair in love and war, so it's up to you how far you are willing to push it, but there is no black and white limit.
Also a good lesson who to trust, hearing the age old "all men are pigs" only tells me they have much to learn.

 

[GothmogII]

Err, isn't that technically rape by

No of course it's not, lying to get laid is such a douchebag move.

Did you actually think this through at all. Everyone lies, particularly in the early stages of a relationship:
When asked the question "Do you like my hair?" almost any man will answer: "Yes you look beautiful not "No it looks fucking awful". Particularly a man who is trying to get laid.

Pro-tip: When a woman asks "What are you thinking?" Lie to her. Seriously. It's just easier that way.

Lying is part of the social contract. It is necessary to maintain human relationships.

Yes. yes I did think it through. You may have needed to lie in your relationship but I didn't. Me and my girlfriend are honest with each other. If I get say a haircut and she doesn't like it she tells me. If She's wearing something I don't like I'll tell her, honesty in a relationship is an important thing and in the long run it's better to be honest.

Really? You have never lied to your partner about anything? Never said you would put down a controller in 5 minutes and actually played a game for another 20 minutes? Never agreed with your girlfriend to avoid an argument?

You turn up to the restaurant 5 minutes late and your girlfriend is sitting there with her friends and says "what kept you" do you answer: "I was about to leave, but then I had to take a shit, and not just a quick dump, but it took ages because I really haven't been getting enough fibre in my diet recently"

You're taking this very literally...the response would have been: I really had to use the bathroom. : / If that's how you would respond to that situation, I can actually see why -you- would need to lie.

 

[Caligulove]

Well for a one night stand, that's almost entirely physical. I'm remembering the sex more than anything. Everyone lies in some regards or in small ways, makes themselves look better when first dating or trying to meet someone, if it's kind of acknowledged that your relationship with someone will be a one-time deal and nothing other than physical, I have no problem with it, really.

People need intimacy and sex- sometimes they want to forget a little about themselves while doing so. Not one to judge.

 

[Pearwood]

It's not very classy but it's certainly above spiking drinks. I wouldn't do it myself and I wouldn't condone other people doing it though.

 

[Weslebear]

No.

And to avoid moderation, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

 

[s0p0g]

of course, otherwise we'd be extinct for quite some time now ^^

also, where is the "yes" option?

 

[ezeroast]

you mean like saying "I love you"

well then call me a lier

 

[ghostalker.cepo]

Even when looking out for a one night stand, you still owe it to any women worth your time to respect her. Lying is disrespectful, and meaning no harm has nothing to do in the debate.

I don't get this idea that if a woman is willing to do a one night stand, she's not worth being honest with.

If a woman is willing to do a one night stand, she's going to choose someone who she finds interesting. Most people are tedious and boring and unless you are either incredibly attractive, incredibly charming or your interests/personalities match, you have to impress her some other way. You're both after a night of sex with no strings attached, so some deception or exaggeration on your part to seem more interesting in her eyes is fine, you have to do something that puts you ahead of the others competing for her attention. It's a mating dance, and as ever in mating dances the male who is most impressive is who the female chooses.

As has been said before in this thread, lying about being single when you're not = bad, and omitting that you have an STD or lying that you don't when you do = bad, both of those will come back to haunt you, but exaggerating how interesting you are for the sake of sticking your penis into someone who wants a penis put in them for that one night? What's the big deal? If it's not yours, it WILL be some other guy's, so why not? She's never going to see you again.

I will add, that I'm not a one night stand kinda guy, they're shallow and cheap and have no meaning for me, but that doesn't make what I said any less true.

 

[Laser Priest]

It's not the outright worst thing you can do.

It's still a dick move, though.

 

[Quaxar]

Everyone lies for sex. The difference is between lying to deceive and lying to please.

Former, No. Latter, Maybe.

What about lying to protect your secret identity? I'm speaking James Bond and such.
Does that make them filthy perverts?

 

[Deadcyde]

Even when looking out for a one night stand, you still owe it to any women worth your time to respect her. Lying is disrespectful, and meaning no harm has nothing to do in the debate.

I don't get this idea that if a woman is willing to do a one night stand, she's not worth being honest with.

If a woman is willing to do a one night stand, she's going to choose someone who she finds interesting. Most people are tedious and boring and unless you are either incredibly attractive, incredibly charming or your interests/personalities match, you have to impress her some other way. You're both after a night of sex with no strings attached, so some deception or exaggeration on your part to seem more interesting in her eyes is fine, you have to do something that puts you ahead of the others competing for her attention. It's a mating dance, and as ever in mating dances the male who is most impressive is who the female chooses.

As has been said before in this thread, lying about being single when you're not = bad, and omitting that you have an STD or lying that you don't when you do = bad, both of those will come back to haunt you, but exaggerating how interesting you are for the sake of sticking your penis into someone who wants a penis put in them for that one night? What's the big deal? If it's not yours, it WILL be some other guy's, so why not? She's never going to see you again.

I will add, that I'm not a one night stand kinda guy, they're shallow and cheap and have no meaning for me, but that doesn't make what I said any less true.

you're my new hero

I want to put my penis in you.

^_^

 

[taciturnCandid]

I lie about my name when i'm out looking for a one night stand. I'd rather not have the person be able to track me later. I get really paranoid when a stranger has my name.