The Spoony One has been ejected from That Guy With the Glasses.

[renaissance_nerd]

he was diagnosed being Bipolar II today, any diagnosis of a serious illness can change a persons outlook on alot of things.

I think you just refuse to cut him any slack.

I don't think this is a slack issue. It's an interpretation of words issue.

You're reading it as something closer to "Hey guys can we make up?" where as he's reading it as "Wow, things have really screwed up. I don't know if something this broken can be fixed". Neither statement makes him look any better or worse. One is just him being hopeful and the other is him being a bit more depressed about everything that's happened. Slack isn't involved in that.

I am taking it as something, a start, an admission that maybe he wasn't exactly as right as he thought he was.

not "let's be friends again"

 

[renaissance_nerd]

"one thing I am not, is a *killer*. I am an artist. I *love* a good party. So, truce. Commence au festival!" - Batman 1989

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/35731-to-boldly-flee-the-tgwtgcom-4th-year-anniversary-teaser

 

[Jegsimmons]

he was diagnosed being Bipolar II today, any diagnosis of a serious illness can change a persons outlook on alot of things.

I think you just refuse to cut him any slack.

I don't think this is a slack issue. It's an interpretation of words issue.

You're reading it as something closer to "Hey guys can we make up?" where as he's reading it as "Wow, things have really screwed up. I don't know if something this broken can be fixed". Neither statement makes him look any better or worse. One is just him being hopeful and the other is him being a bit more depressed about everything that's happened. Slack isn't involved in that.

I am taking it as something, a start, an admission that maybe he wasn't exactly as right as he thought he was.

not "let's be friends again"

As someone who lives with a bipolar person....a mix of stress, bipolar disorder, and depression can fuck someone up mentally.
I not defending spoony's actions, but i will defend spoony himself.

 

[thebobmaster_v1legacy]

With all that said though, I'm not completely on spoony's side. Because how I 'would have acted' years ago is quite different from how I'd act today. And if it was my job, I certainly wouldn't do what he did. Spoony went on a rampage, and I truly don't believe 'he has depression' is a good defense. It's no less of a free pass than Allisons 'Spoony is misogynist' BS.

Does being diagnosed as having Bipolar II count as a defense?

https://twitter.com/TheSpoonyOne/status/217716012542468098

 

[JoeThree]

Oh my God, anyone else having trouble with double/triple posts and things quoting wrong?

 

[JimB]

I think you just refuse to cut him any slack.

You know what has me tearing my hair out in frustration right now, renaissance_nerd? It's that you're so committed to this idea you have that he (and therefore those who support him, like you) is a victim that you see anything said about him to be some kind of attack unless it's one hundred percent in his favor. Case in point, your idea that he somehow needs slack from me on this. He doesn't. This is not a matter of innocence vs. guilt, where he needs to be assigned one or the other by how merciful I feel today.

All I'm saying about that last Tweet--the only thing I'm saying--is the way the English language works, the words he used do not mean what you think they mean. It is entirely possible that he intended them the way you interpret them, but it is equally possible that he intended them to mean any of several other things. For instance, I wonder if peace can be made between myself and my first girlfriend, but that doesn't mean I want the abusive ***** within a hundred yards of me.

That is why I would really like some clarification, if any is to be had, as to exactly what he meant by that Tweet. I know Twitter is probably the single worst format in the known universe for conveying depth and nuance of meaning, so maybe it's hopeless, but all the same, if he meant something other than what he literally said, I would genuinely appreciate learning about it.

It seems his disposition on the subject has improved a lot: http://www.twitter.com/TheSpoonyOne/status/217846115867955200

Yeah, it does. Poor guy. I'm totally making stuff up here, but I trust my intuition, so I don't mind guessing that he's kind of coming back from a mood swing and replaying the last few days with a new perspective that consists mostly of a dawning sense of horror.

 

[JoeThree]

Blah, nothing to see here/mispost

 

[renaissance_nerd]

It seems his disposition on the subject has improved a lot: http://www.twitter.com/TheSpoonyOne/status/217846115867955200

Yeah, it does. Poor guy. I'm totally making stuff up here, but I trust my intuition, so I don't mind guessing that he's kind of coming back from a mood swing and replaying the last few days with a new perspective that consists mostly of a dawning sense of horror.

its called coming down from a hypomanic episode, let me google that for you
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Hypomania

 

[JoeThree]

I remember a long time ago back when this conversation was just eight pages long. And now that we're up to thirty, I figured I'd throw in my two cents. I'm going to point out everything that went wrong in its chronological order then I'm going to say my piece on each of them.

First of all, Spoony's joke was completely in poor taste. It wasn't funny and I felt a tad creeped out from just reading it. The thing is though, humor is supposed to be risque, it's supposed to be a thin line. If your humor is going to be inoffensive and chastised than that's absolutely nothing to be proud of unless you're Bill.

Secondly, Jesuotaku didn't seem offended by it. And if she wasn't offended by it than Lupa didn't have a single reason to get up on her high horse and condemn spoony for it. The joke sucked, but if it's a month old and the person he told it too wasn't offended than she's literally asking for trouble. Here's the thing: Once upon a time my step father called my attention to something. It was relatively minor, but I listened and the situation was resolved. It wasn't a problem and I could just go to my room. My mother then decided to do exactly what Allison did. She climbed up on her white horse and start defending me when I didn't ask to be defended and went on this meaningless crusade when the situation had already been resolved. The result was fighting and humiliation for my part, because apparently I couldn't think for my self

If Allison were to do to me what she had done to Spoony I would say absolutely nothing less than 'Fuck you and the horse you rode in on'. She was the spark that lit the fire and it's nothing less than pathetic on how she uses feminism to shield her from any criticism. If you try to argue against her, you're sexist. And you know what's funny? That sounds exactly like what those far right wing conservatives say or those insane religious people. I don't assume all conservative are far right wing or all religious people are insane, but I'm pointing out the ones in particular who are. They try to discredit you by saying that you're a brainwashed liberal or that you're a heathen.

Pathetic.


With all that said though, I'm not completely on spoony's side. Because how I 'would have acted' years ago is quite different from how I'd act today. And if it was my job, I certainly wouldn't do what he did. Spoony went on a rampage, and I truly don't believe 'he has depression' is a good defense. It's no less of a free pass than Allisons 'Spoony is misogynist' BS. Allison cannot be blamed on how Spoony handled the situation. And to put it simply, he handled it terribly. Anything on Spoony being a misogynist or Allison having some great agenda to get him fired is pure speculation and neither hold any credibility what so ever. In fact, they're just rumors and we should be ashamed that we're not past that. Let your imagination conjure whatever you wish, but don't be immature enough to share it and potentially something that's not even true - it's not going to make the situation better.


They're both wrong. If I were to hate Lupa based on what she did then I'd have to hate my own mother. Where as if I were to hate Spoony for what he did I'd have to hate my self. I don't want to judge them based around this one fuck up, but instead realize that they fucked up and consider how I'd wish to be treated if I were to fuck up my self. A lot of people go on about Spoony being ego centric. Who knows, not me. But if he is I just hope he gets out of it along with any problems he may be facing. I'll still watch their videos and I won't see them any differently than the way I've seen them before. Because lets not forget, they're people. And at times, people can be fucking stupid.

Now on about this 'Holly is conspiring against Spoony bull shit'

Speculation, not credible. Some of these people make videos for a living - it's literally their job - so I can understand her decision to kick spoony off after what he did. When your business is based around the image of the producers of course you you can't have them up there. If everyone plays their cards right then this'll just blow over eventually and they'll be greeting Spoony with open arms.

Another condemnation I have is how immature some of the people were acting over this. Ironically, Jesu said it best when she equated everyone to a bunch of high school students and pleaded for some professionalism. If you take making videos seriously as your job, than it damn well should be.

And finally, lets talk about Lordkat. To be honest, I don't care whether spoony has depression and I don't believe that it's worse to insult someone with depression. But here's the thing, it's WRONG to wish someone to die like that, period. Spoony told a joke in poor taste, person he told it too didn't give a fuck. Lordkat however literally wished someone to die after the person lost their job and freaked the fuck out. Dude, what is wrong with you? And you know what's most ironic? It's how he condemns spoony when he's literally doing something that's in far greater poor taste, far more immature, and just horrible all around.

Spoony may have lost his job for what he had done, and he may have deserved it. But at least he never got banned from the escapist because he wished someone to die (What's with you and people dying, Lordkat?) over something stupid like Madden.

So there's my two cents. I can look past what both Spoony and Allison did and I wish the best for the both of them. But Lordkat, the dude needs to chill out and smoke some weed.

I agree with you 99%... but it's Democrats that pull out the race card every chance they get. The Right just is a bunch of morons, but seriously, you cannot say THEY pull this crap more than the Left.

PS: Lupa's Tremors reviews are the first entertaining thing she's done in ages, Phelous hasn't been funny in months, Spoony doesn't make a lot of new content, but when he does it's great, and Linkara is the man.

 

[Jegsimmons]

It seems his disposition on the subject has improved a lot: http://www.twitter.com/TheSpoonyOne/status/217846115867955200

Yeah, it does. Poor guy. I'm totally making stuff up here, but I trust my intuition, so I don't mind guessing that he's kind of coming back from a mood swing and replaying the last few days with a new perspective that consists mostly of a dawning sense of horror.

its called coming down from a hypomanic episode, look it up

this. With as many health and mental issues spoony has, its amazing he can stay together.

 

[guidance]

I watch most of spoony's stuff on his site so this doesn't bother me to much. I am sad to see that this was started over something so meaningless. I will continue to watch both sites cause I like stuff on both.

 

[Damien Granz]

It's not terribly surprising considering if you read anything he posts that isn't on his video he has about 0 tolerance for anything he didn't already agree with and was likely to fly off the handle, even if it's some mundane shit like you disagreed with what cola you liked better.

He's always come off as the 'alpha got to have it my way' sort, so it's not surprising that he couldn't handle criticism of any sort when it came from a co-worker. He handled it not at all well when it came from faceless internet goons. There's been times where he's had to shut down his comment pages and even thought about shutting down his forum just because some people didn't like the videos he made. And, I guess if you're quasi-internet famous and faceless trolls can flip your shit, there's no way you can handle anything substantial from people that are partially paying your bills and actually matter.

Him being depressed or suffering from some mental illness does make it more the sad, but not any more surprising.

 

[Vault101]

or the christmas special abortion joke, the casper abortion incest joke, the deleted autism joke, ect.

I found the casper joke kind of funny...and he did later realise the autism joke probably wasnt right so he fixed it..I see no issue there

https://twitter.com/Karkitty612/status/215979320424939520

When i see shit like this, i start thinking spoony may not be the actual start of the problem.
It almost seems that people on TGWTG wanted him gone for a while.

And i dont care what someone says.....you dont fucking say that shit in that tweet, that is some cold evil speech right there.

i hope sage, linkara, joe and brad leave CA and join spoony, cool guys like that dont need to be associated with assholes.

kinda wish the Walkers would just lay down some law, but i think they're under contract or something.

while I think that tweet is dusgusting you can;t deamonise the enitre site for that one guys tweet...plsu isnt everyone say he hasnt been involved with the site in agies?...also I don;t think spoony is 100% innocent

also I disagree abotu nostalga Chick...I think her videos have been getting better ans shes by far my favorite...her videos are funny but also itneresting because instead of mugging at the camer and sumarising the plot (nostalga critic) she actually talk about the content in an an interesting way...

but then thats just me

 

[JimB]

It's called coming down from a hypomanic episode. Let me Google that for you: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Hypomania

Oh, come off it. I know what it's called, assuming he does, in fact, have bipolar II disorder (let's remember it's not the first diagnosis he's received, which means his previous one, his current one, or both could be misdiagnoses). That's why I phrased it the way I did: I don't have the tools or the testimony to describe it in good conscience as a hypomanic episode, but I can and will say with an untroubled heart that he seems to be having a change in his perspective right now. Whether it fits the pathology for a bipolar disorder is irrelevant to me. I'm only interested in the sense I get of how he's feeling right now.

 

[renaissance_nerd]

You wonder why spoony loses his shit at people, the very first comment in his announcement about the 4 year anniversary vid is EXACTLY what he asked people NOT to do in the header.


https://www.facebook.com/spoonyexperiment

in case you cant see it heres the header

Please attempt to remain civil in these comments. Despite my recent departure from Channel Awesome, I?m still very proud to be a part of the TGWTG 4-year Anniversary movie. I really hope you enjoy it

and heres the 1st comment.

Lol I personally cannot give a fuck less about TGWTG that site was always shit, the only ones i watch are you, Joe, and sage

 

[Skipper zammo]

It's called coming down from a hypomanic episode. Let me Google that for you: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Hypomania

Oh, come off it. I know what it's called, assuming he does, in fact, have bipolar II disorder (let's remember it's not the first diagnosis he's received, which means his previous one, his current one, or both could be misdiagnoses). That's why I phrased it the way I did: I don't have the tools or the testimony to describe it in good conscience as a hypomanic episode, but I can and will say with an untroubled heart that he seems to be having a change in his perspective right now. Whether it fits the pathology for a bipolar disorder is irrelevant to me. I'm only interested in the sense I get of how he's feeling right now.

Now obviously I can't confirm or deny a diagnosis. But after a quick google search of bipolar II disorder, it really does fit really well with pretty much all of Spoony's visable and rumoured behaviour of late.

 

[renaissance_nerd]

hmmm the plot thickens.. sort of

http://www.twitter.com/TheSpoonyOne/status/217848697243963392

 

[guidance]

hmmm the plot thickens.. sort of

http://www.twitter.com/TheSpoonyOne/status/217848697243963392

Hey man, how about you take a break. I mean I love the guy too and hes very entertaining to watch, but I don't think we need live updates constantly through the thread. I mean 32 pages is enough right?

 

[renaissance_nerd]

hmmm the plot thickens.. sort of

http://www.twitter.com/TheSpoonyOne/status/217848697243963392

Hey man, how about you take a break. I mean I love the guy too and hes very entertaining to watch, but I don't think we need live updates constantly through the thread. I mean 32 pages is enough right?

sorry I was asked to provide material that Spoony's mood was indeed improving so that what i am doing, I can stop though.

 

[gookygox]

sorry I was asked to provide material that Spoony's mood was indeed improving so that what i am doing, I can stop though.

Understandable, however I cared for my older sister most of my life who lives with Bipolar II. From a realistic standpoint it's unlikely that his mood will remain stable at this point (even if he started meds TODAY). Though I think we're ALL glad to see him tweeting as he has been today.