Zero Punctuation: Rage

[KDR_11k]

Dunno about finishing it in a weekend, I clocked something like 20 hours for my playthrough and I don't think I'd want to play that much Rage during one weekend.

I was kinda hoping for a game that's Borderlands but better (because I 100% agree with the ZP review on that game) but Rage is more of a straight shooter, no real loot to speak of.

 

[blankedboy]

This covered my thoughts exactly. It's pretty bland. And it was so hyped for... no reason. Why did this game have so much hype, why?

Did you happen to play Doom?

If you've made that post I'm going to have to assume that's a no. What a shame ;-;

 

[Diegolomac]

OT: Funny stuff, though I was almost hoping he'd have tried the PC version on release so he could tear it a new one for the state it was released in. Guess he doesn't have a super-computer resembling the Monolith anymore.

Yeah, he said in the reviews for Two Worlds 2 and The Witcher 2 that he doesn't have a massive gaming computer now, he has to put most things on the lowest setting for them to run smoothly. Personally I don't even know why he tried Two Worlds 2 on the PC if he could play the console version and not have to worry about graphical settings.

 

[KDR_11k]

People who whine about the PC version probably have Ati graphics cards. I've been avoiding them and their shitty drivers for about a decade now. The game's not very demanding on the hardware since it was so optimized for low end systems (consoles).

This covered my thoughts exactly. It's pretty bland. And it was so hyped for... no reason. Why did this game have so much hype, why?

Did you happen to play Doom?

If you've made that post I'm going to have to assume that's a no. Shame.

Or perhaps he played Doom 3 and knew that id is no longer a great developer.

 

[JambalayaBob]

You mentioned Borderlands awful PC problems, but Rage's were worse to the tune of, it wasn't even really playable upon release. Because id had been using mystical non-existent drivers during testing.

The best of ideas, obviously.

Yeah, it's totally id's fault that ATI released the wrong drivers.

 

[VulakAerr]

Really Yahtzee, you're going to compare the lenght of a SHOOTER to an RPG? That's amazingly stupid, even for you. There are hints of RPG, but Rage is without a doubt an FPS, as you even point out as being part of Shooter Season 2011. So compare it to an older shooter. How long was Quake or Halo? Oh, that's right, sub 10 hours. How long is Rage? 12+ hours. Yeah, games sure are getting short these daaaay.....wait, THAT'S LONGER.

You don't get it Yahtzee the entire point of Rage was to show off the new engine Skyrim is going to run on. And to shoot bandits dressed like children in robot costumes during halloween.

Uhhh, what? Pretty damn sure Skyrim isn't using id Tech 5...

You are correct, sir. It is using a heavily modified Oblivion engine.

Creation is not Gamebryo 2.0, it is a completely new engine. Which having actually seen the game in person now, is very apparent. Creation will likely be used for FO4 as well, though I sorta hope they use idTech 5 after they work the kinks out of it.

I'm afraid it's still based on the Gamebryo 2.0 engine. Just with many rewrites. According to Bethesda interviews, more rewrites the further they got into writing the game, but still was borne of Gamebryo 2.0

 

[CrawlingPastaHellion]

SEEMS LIKE id DIDn't do IT AGAIN!

Carmack is a self-centered programmer with a megalomania complex. He's good at programming, but he doesn't know jack shit about what makes a game tick on every other level.

Seriously, John, we get it, you're a good programmer. Get a freakin' life.

 

[Dfskelleton]

I'm simeltaneously (bad spelling) playing RAGE and Quake II on PC, and while RAGE is flat out beautiful and Quake II had things like this:

At least in Quake II I know what I'm trying to do, even if it is as simple as "Aliens with a fetish for mediocre prosthesis featuring lots of sharp things wiped out half of the human race, you're a marine, all your buddies got killed on the way in and you must singlehandedly shut down all of their nessecary machines and kill their leader." RAGE seems more intent on making you do stuff for people. However, it still has that occasional Id moment in which you've got enemies coming from all sides and a big freaking gun, and you only options are kill everything or die.

 

[daxterx2005]

Al-Lou-Minium

Oh yahtzee, you card you.

 

[Frostbite3789]

You mentioned Borderlands awful PC problems, but Rage's were worse to the tune of, it wasn't even really playable upon release. Because id had been using mystical non-existent drivers during testing.

The best of ideas, obviously.

Yeah, it's totally id's fault that ATI released the wrong drivers.

Ohhhhh, that explains why plenty of people with nvidea cards also had problems.

id used drivers during testing that by their own admission had seen heavy internal modification. To release a game, without testing it on drivers that actually exist in the real world, that's horrid QA. That's releasing a broken game, shrugging your shoulders and going, "Eh, not my problem. They should have different drivers."

 

[RA92]

OT: Funny stuff, though I was almost hoping he'd have tried the PC version on release so he could tear it a new one for the state it was released in.

I've been asking for that for weeks!

OT: The most infuriating thing is that they took six fucking years to make what? Texture pop-ups.

Also, fake freedom.

 

[Frostbite3789]

People who whine about the PC version probably have Ati graphics cards.

Plenty of people with Nvidea cards had problems too, there champ. Also I didn't know complaining about a product that's broken is 'whining'. Christ, what's not whining?

"The game shot flames out of the case and caught my face on fire. I don't like this game very much."

"OMGSTFU QUIT WHINING!!11!!!"

 

[Frostbite3789]

OT: Great video , wasn't even thinking of getting it , but now i won'T even get it when the price drops.

This, right here, is everything wrong with Yahtzee fans. You take an online cynics word as gospel and don't try anything for yourself.

How was he not thinking for himself? He said in the first sentence (you know, the sentence that comes before the second one) he wasn't even thinking of getting it to begin with.

This merely helped cement his decision.

 

[Slash Dementia]

Meh, it was the most fun that I've had with an FPS in a really long time. id Software's games have never, to me, really been much about making a lot of sense in the story, but rather just having some fun; Rage does that.

I also don't get why having three discs is such an issue. Sure, the game was pretty short--with a lot of distraction in the middle--but I don't get why it needs a mention. It didn't subtract from the game at all.

Also, the fact that Boarderlands and Fallout 3 were mentioned was pretty bland. I'm all for opinions, though. To each their own--I enjoyed Rage greatly.

 

[MasterOfWorlds]

Im still in half a mind to buy this. Hell i loved Borderlands and Fallout.. but i think Rage may just be its bastard child..

I thought that too, but ended up buying it anyway. Don't bother. Yahtzee actually pretty much nailed every complaint I had about the game (I got it for PS3) and I wrote a review on it for my site, and the buddy I started the site with stopped playing the campaign after he read it.

It's OK at best, but it's not absolutely horrible. I suggest FO3 GOTY if you feel the urge to play in that setting. Also, be ready for a sequel. Either that or it's perhaps THE least conclusive ending I've ever seen.

 

[SirMouse]

Yeah, this was a game that woulda been wonderful... if it was not a clone of Fallout 3/Borderlands. I honestly thought for the first few minutes that I WAS playing Borderlands, until my buddy showed me the title screen. The game plays ok, mostly, but the bugs in the driving and the shite ending made me glad that I wasn't the one to purchase it. Seriously, this is what people spend $50 bucks on now?

 

[Waaghpowa]

People who whine about the PC version probably have Ati graphics cards.

I have GTX 470 SLI and it still runs like crap. It's ignoring my SLI and the framerate constantly roller coasters up and down. The FPS drops down to EXACTLY 30 from 60 every time I stand beside an NPC.

Basically what he said...

id used drivers during testing that by their own admission had seen heavy internal modification. To release a game, without testing it on drivers that actually exist in the real world, that's horrid QA. That's releasing a broken game, shrugging your shoulders and going, "Eh, not my problem. They should have different drivers."

 

[Torrasque]

"I don't see how a 3 CD game could last weeks, but a 3 DVD game, can be blown off in a weekend" - paraphrase
Here fucking here.
I am tired of developers giving up content for the sake of making their games look prettier than "the competition", or adding 25 different ways for an enemy to die, instead of adding 5 different quests.

 

[Zanaxal]

All i have to say is, Console gaming. Happily cutting down on gameplay and length since start of 2000.

And even your Half-life 2 you praise so much is a short Blended racer shooter game. i think the steam stats the completeion time was around 4-5 hours compared to the Master race halflife 1 12 hours non speedrun.

Its all gone to shit ever since.

 

[OCAdam]

Well, while I wasn't looking forward to Rage (it really did look like it was Borderlands in different packaging), I was looking forward to this review! And I left not disappointed. Jeez... not many games are of any real length anymore these days... Well, at least DXHR took a bit of time, as well as Crysis 2 (although quite easy).

While I know it's supposed to be a theme this season for Yahtzee to be SHOOTER Season 2011... I'd still like to see what insults he can throw Forza 4's way since I know he doesn't like racing games too too much (not like he can reverse my day 2 purchase of said game, but it'd still be pretty fun to see what he comes up with).