Zero Punctuation: Star Wars: The Old Republic

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Hitchmeister

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Yahtzee occasionally reviews mummorpuggers, but I don't think he's ever liked one. Nevertheless, it's still entertaining to see how he'll re-interpret the acronym "MMORPG."
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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I'm confused as to why this game isn't more popular it's actually very good. I guess it's because it's an MMO *shrug*. Yahtzee is right you can actually play it as a very satisfying single player game, feels a bit like Mass Effect.
 

Raithnor

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I know Yahtzee doesn't read these forums but you can turn Corso's Grapple ability off by expanding the companion bar and right-clicking the ability so the green light is off.
 

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Hopperdopper said:
Are we talking about the same game here?

He didn't even mention the graveyard servers IN PEAK HOURS, FPS issues, brainless rude ToRons, 300 mil dollar project that coughed up this mess of a game and promising an experience in the words of, "unlike other mmorpgs, you DON'T grind or fight a big monster with lots of people in ToR, because that isn't very heroic".
Alright man...

There were over 200 people on my server last night at about 7 pm central time. So yeah, not EVERY sever is a graveyard. In fact I'd doubt even most of them are.

FPS issues. I haven't had any on my rig. Maybe you need a new machine? Throw this in as a criticism of the game if you want but ultimately it can be said it was an issue on your end.

"Brainless rude ToRons." In my experience, so far, I've had one bad experience with another community member. Surprise surprise he wasn't there to play the game he was there to steal kills from other players and ask "umad" over and over again.

You haven't seen the figures for how much was spent on the game. All you have is estimates from industry analysts (the same ones you same people say are wrong when they said concerns about the game were overestimated)

And yeah. There are big monsters you fight or grind with other players, but to be honest I haven't run into a single one that is REQUIRED to continue on the game.

All of your criticisms come down to your own opinion or experiences and none of them are facts so quit trying to pass them off as such.
 

Labcoat Samurai

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Raithnor said:
I know Yahtzee doesn't read these forums but you can turn Corso's Grapple ability off by expanding the companion bar and right-clicking the ability so the green light is off.
Indeed you can. But I got a huge kick out of yahtzee's complaint here. For gunslingers, that has to be the worst possible ability your companion could have, and it's turned on by default. My understanding of the system is that cover is directional, so Corso not only pulls a guy close, but if he's standing behind you when combat starts, he negates your cover for one enemy. Really boneheaded move on the designers' part.

Oh well, at least when you turn it off, it seems to stay off, now. Back in the early access, I had to turn it off a lot.

EDIT: You know, I bet it'd be bad for scoundrels too. For example, if you're trying to set up a close range combo and Corso pulls the guy away. It's like the one companion for sith warriors who has a knockback ability, always knocking guys out of melee range right as you're getting your lightsaber combo going. At least by the time you get that guy, you have the ability to lightsaber throw, and you can often jump to the guy.
 

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Star Wars just won't bloody well die will it? Granted, an MMO is probably the best way to keep the interest of the bigger nerds, but for the rest of us there hasn't been a good SW movie since Return of the Jedi and there hasn't been so much as a half-decent SW game since KOTOR.

And what's this about the Star Wars movies being re-released in 3D? Good idea, when's first movie out? They're doing Episode I first, you say? Great, now the kids won't appreciate what was probably the best plot twist in sci-fi history when they get to Empire. You're dumber than I thought, George...
 

mjc0961

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Scarim Coral said:
Oh man how did no one make a joke about "Han Solo" until Yatzee did? (Unless they already did and I didn't see/ hear it until now).
I wonder if his opinion would changed if he had a longer time to play it?
Never seen Zoolander, huh? They made that joke back in 2001.

Still a great joke though.
 

Raithnor

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Labcoat Samurai said:
EDIT: You know, I bet it'd be bad for scoundrels too. For example, if you're trying to set up a close range combo and Corso pulls the guy away. It's like the one companion for sith warriors who has a knockback ability, always knocking guys out of melee range right as you're getting your lightsaber combo going. At least by the time you get that guy, you have the ability to lightsaber throw, and you can often jump to the guy.
Kaliyo has the same ability for the Agent. It's more useful for Operatives because she brings the ranged guys to you who'd you normally have to chase down. Since you have the stealth field generator, you have time to setup your combo in advance and your companion is right next to you.

I run a Sith Juggernaut so I generally don't use the tanks unless I want conversation affection points. One thing I've found effective is to have the healing or tanking companion attack the enemy next to the one I'm attacking. When I run Quinn I turn off his blaster attacks and just have him hold one of the other enemies.
 

Scarim Coral

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mjc0961 said:
Scarim Coral said:
Oh man how did no one make a joke about "Han Solo" until Yatzee did? (Unless they already did and I didn't see/ hear it until now).
I wonder if his opinion would changed if he had a longer time to play it?
Never seen Zoolander, huh? They made that joke back in 2001.

Still a great joke though.
Actually I have (got it on DVD) although it has been years since I last watched it (man I need to watch it again sometime soon).
 

TsunamiWombat

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As everyone has already mentioned,

1. When making moral decisions, you only get the lightsight/darkside points for the decision you make. Furthermore, "neutral" gear is to be patched into the game later, from what I understand

2. The NPC companion your referring to can be equipped with a melee weapon (making the harpoon make much more sense) but more importantly that ability can be turned off with a simple click if you bother to faff about with the companion controls. Didn't bother asking anyone in game anything I take it?
 

Beryl77

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Ah yes, the third bloke from the left. What a great character he was.

Anyway, sounds like a nice MMO but I'm waiting for another one to be released, so I'll skip this one.
 

redisforever

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That pun at the end really hurt, physically. I groaned, leaned back, and nearly fell off my chair. I did hit my leg on my desk though.
 

Jonluw

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Oh my god. That must have been the best pun ever.
Also: Yahtzee using a rage face?
I never thought I'd see the day.
 

Something Amyss

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RaikuFA said:
Zachary Amaranth said:
RaikuFA said:
Not playing this one till I know if its true that you get banned for being in a higher level than you're supposed to.
Say what? Never heard this one. Not saying you're wrong, just asking for clarification.
http://i.imgur.com/j2CQY.jpg

Saw this and turned me away from this game, but I still feel its BS.
Woooooooow. Really hope that's not true, because that's just BAD.
 

LetalisK

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ZippyDSMlee said:
I am waiting on them to allow Jedi to dual wield pistols.
Roll a Bounty Hunter, choose Mercenary, then wear the customizable Sith Warrior robes. Or Roll a Smuggler, choose Gunslinger, then wear the customizable Jedi Sentinel armor.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
RaikuFA said:
Zachary Amaranth said:
RaikuFA said:
Not playing this one till I know if its true that you get banned for being in a higher level than you're supposed to.
Say what? Never heard this one. Not saying you're wrong, just asking for clarification.
http://i.imgur.com/j2CQY.jpg

Saw this and turned me away from this game, but I still feel its BS.
Woooooooow. Really hope that's not true, because that's just BAD.
aa yes, little snips of text without any context whatsoever
obviously must be 100% true and accurate
 

BlackFrost55

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EmperorSubcutaneous said:
Oh, you played a Smuggler...I'm so sorry. I found it to be one of the worst stories in the game.

Imperial Agent (the Empire equivalent of Smuggler) being the best, of course. While the Smuggler story felt phoned in and padded, the Imperial Agent story progressed in such a logical and compelling way that I didn't feel like I was just being dragged to the next planet along with everyone else.

Plus, it actually feels like a fun and unique addition to the Star Wars universe. You get to see the Empire in a different light than you usually do, the morality is more interesting, and it doesn't revolve around the Jedi and Sith (who have both gotten very boring). Plus you get to be Space James Bond, so that's cool too. (It also has the best cast of companion characters by far, not counting the first one you get. She's horrible. But her unrelenting bitchiness does get kind of funny.)

Of course what happens after you reach 50 is a different story. I'm pretty much just sitting around waiting for expansions now. But I will play them; I just love the characters that much.
This. All of it. The Imperial Agent is by far the best story I've seen in the game so far. The Smuggler story is just so damn disappointing, and if I had started with Smuggler instead of Imperial Agent I probably would've quit the game weeks ago.
 

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DVS BSTrD said:
So apparently even if you chose ranged combat you still end-up spending a good chuck of the game fiddling with your lightsaber.
......If you choose a ranged class you never touch a lightsaber, if you choose a jedi class you never touch a pistol.