He likely means 200 at the flotilla. So its only a fraction of all players online.Hopperdopper said:-200 (PEAK HOUR)people IS a graveyard. Hell, even low hours this is lousy. This number is laughable and shameful compared to other mmos. WoW, EvE online and even RUNESCAPE servers number their online population in the THOUSANDS.
Ew... 1000 player servers would make me a very sad person. Figure maybe 30-50% would be max level, then halve it again for factions, and you only get 75-125 max level players at a time. WoW would easily have that many in Dalaran/Orgrimmar/Stormwind easily.Ixal said:He likely means 200 at the flotilla. So its only a fraction of all players online.Hopperdopper said:-200 (PEAK HOUR)people IS a graveyard. Hell, even low hours this is lousy. This number is laughable and shameful compared to other mmos. WoW, EvE online and even RUNESCAPE servers number their online population in the THOUSANDS.
But yes, TORs server are very, very small. And you have heavy instancing in the game to so that you usually don't have more than 50 people in a single instance (flotilla being the exception).
I guess a server can hold about 1000 people at the same time, maybe a bit more. No idea why BW made it that way.
Lag? Or because they still see it primarily as a single player game. That would explain why the actual MMO elements suck and are outdated.
And with all the players leaving it will be interesting when BW will do the first server merge. Can't be good for their image to merge them only months after the release.
Aw crap I'm an accidental Logo copy cat. Good choice though sir. Not that I need to tell you.The Gentleman said:I imagine Yahtzee would like the Sith Warrior campaign more seeing as you get to torture people within the first hour.
You beat me to it sir, You should give him the link to wow's bug/patch list. That mmo was so much buggier than swtor at launch.animehermit said:I doubt it. I played WoW for 6 years and have never seen more than 200 people in any faction capital at any time during the day. He's not saying 200 total, he's saying 200 on the fleet, per factions, which is a fraction of those actively playing at any one time.Hopperdopper said:-200 (PEAK HOUR)people IS a graveyard. Hell, even low hours this is lousy. This number is laughable and shameful compared to other mmos. WoW, EvE online and even RUNESCAPE servers number their online population in the THOUSANDS.
The only threads I ever see shut down are the ones started by people in the wrong area, or are already made somewhere else. Honestly 99% of people aren't even having any issues, I run a high end rig and I never drop below 60 fps.Hopperdopper said:-Several people have reported FPS issues even on high-end machines. This was thanks to the unfinished, buggy hero-engine they decided to use. They reported these issues on the official forums. Most of them were dismissed, like you're dismissing my claims now, and eventually removed as "spam" or "trolling", by the mods.
First month just ended, everyone should be expecting a drop off in the number of playersHopperdopper said:-I've seen the mmohunter graph, for one. It's declining at a steady pace.
A story where I care about the people in the game. Not just single player either, which is a misconception.Hopperdopper said:-And instead of the monsters and grinding.. What? Single-player missions? Those twilight-grade romance quests? HUTTBALL?!
There are a few bugs, but nothing game breaking, and nothing that would completely stop anyone from playing the game. As I said before, not everyone is experiencing FPS drops, I'm certainly not, neither is most everyone I know.Hopperdopper said:So people aren't really experiencing fps drops and constant bugs and glitches? They're just imagining or trolling. And the lack of end-content- No wait, you're going to say "You just played the game too fast".
2 Raids at launch, both with 6 bosses each, with hard modes of every flashpoint in the game, is plenty of endgame content to hold the community over until March when 1.2 drops and we get a lot more stuff. WoW has gone the greater part of year on only 12 bosses, so now it's unacceptable to only have 12 in the first 3 months?
You sound like someone who gets all their arguments from 4chan, next you'll be spouting off about how the game is somehow doomed to fail. Maybe you should experience the game yourself and not let others spout off their misinformed opinions for you.Hopperdopper said:Or hey, maybe you're already thinking of a good comeback to the "other mmos" argument. This is a ToR forum favourite "WELL MAYBE YOU SHOULD GO BACK TO [Insert MMO], IF U LOVE IT SO MUCH"
Oh here's one your people like to use on the server population (Lack thereof) argument
"GOOD, LESS KIDS IN THE SERVER TO ANNOY ME" or "I like to play this as a single-player game anyway".
Honestly, you're either one of the "official" bioware apologists or a very deluded person.
In fact, why am I even telling this to you in either case!? It's not like you care in your happy little boat there.
Agree on all notes. Its like coffee vs tea. They each have pros and cons but I have a separate coffee maker for both of them. And I'll be damned if I ever put them in the same cup and call it a revolutionary new drink. Then again maybe that would work but I'm not going there. Point is story is for story games. MMO's are for excellent client support, grinding, quests (that no one honestly reads the background for and if you do well good luck to you sir/Madam), and gear. Oh, did I mention gear? Because percentage wise gear is about 99% of it. What do you care about more a patch opening up new story content or the newest gear, and GUI adaptations? Bioware has this monstrous game that is buggy and obviously getting a lot of bad press, yeah its new and I understand a lot of that stuff gets worked out quick which warrants a reprieve before we rip into them........oh wait they kinda declared themselves overload of the universe while sitting on a throne of skulls for their "revolution" in the MMO world. I'm sorry but a 1+n installment of Everquest with a new story line does not make you the best, and certainly not revolutionary.Ixal said:There is really no reason to play Tor.
When you are in "for the story" buy a single player RPG which has no monthly cost and a way better story as it does not have all this MMO baggage attached to it. And when you are in for the MMO part then there are way better MMOs out there as Tor is really lacking in that department as their only selling point is the story. Everything else is outdated compared to other modern MMOs and Tor is still very buggy.